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Re: Ship Classes

Postby Nuc on Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:53 am

LukeFF wrote:
What does the "EC" refer to? It shows up a lot in reports.


It sound like it has to with credit for the sinking. Maybe: "Exec Confirmed" meaning the Executive Officer also viewed the sinking and agreed with the identification. - just a guess
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Re: Ship Classes

Postby Nisgeis on Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:25 am

It's usually EC or EU so could be E-Confirmed and E-Unconfirmed. Sometimes it's EV, but I imagine that's a typo of EC. I have seen the after patrol assesments also get it wrong, e.g. say EU when they mean EU. I never made any sense of it, as sometimes the Captains are a bit more verbose and give extra detail and if they give the same description of hos the sinking was determined, sometimes it's the same - observed hit, saw target slowly disappear from radar for say three targets, but two are EC and one is EU... :? It doesn't appear to be related to tonnage either. And it can't be type as there are more than two types of ship. :clueless:
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Re: Ship Classes

Postby Nuc on Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:20 am

EC: Estimate Confirmed. Indicates identification of target was confirmed by reference to
ONl 208-J or ONl 41-42. If the target could not be found in one of these identification
manuals, or in Janes’ Fighting Ships, which was also aboard, the notation (EU)—Estimate
Unconfirmed—was used. .......The EU notation appeared much more frequently as the war progressed
and the Japanese put new ships into service.

Source:

http://books.google.com/books?id=epTqoN ... EU&f=false
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Re: Ship Classes

Postby Nisgeis on Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:32 pm

How strange, I'd never have guessed that. Estimate seems a bit of a strange word to use for ID, unless it's ID for the purpose of estimating tonnage.

Nice work Nuc.
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Re: Ship Classes

Postby tater on Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:38 am

OK, what controls what the PLAYER sees in terms of sinking a ship?

Ie: You sink a ship, and it gets added to your score---what does it call a given ship?

The entire name thing in the roster is BS and doesn't work, right? (meaning you put RL ship names in the roster and get **** for your effort, they are never given specific names, right?)

In the rec manual, they show up like so (heito, which is in the background behind the AP):

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The "DisplayName" =JP Medium Modern Composite Merchant in the Roster/Japan/Sea/KMCSHeito.cfg file says this.

In Names.cfg she's:
Medium Modern Composite Freighter

What do you see in your logbook?
So the rec manual pulls from the Names.cfg name.
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Re: Ship Classes

Postby tater on Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:32 pm

I'm thinking about, "Heito Maru Class Composite," "Nippon Maru Class Engines Aft." That sort of thing, since it adds some useful data to the rec manual.
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Re: Ship Classes

Postby tater on Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:24 pm

Note that the ONI images are more or less to scale, so smaller ships have smaller line drawings.
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Re: Ship Classes

Postby virtualpender on Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:59 pm

Tater - are you redoing all of the recognition images or only the merchants? I have a bunch of the ONI beyond just the Japanese if you should need any of those.
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Re: Ship Classes

Postby tater on Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:30 pm

I was just gonna do the merchants. That said, I only have 208J (I also have the supplements), and the 41-42 IJN one.

So I suppose I need them for some other ships (US ships, etc).
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Re: Ship Classes

Postby LukeFF on Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:03 pm

Like virtualpender, I have a lot of the ONI manuals as well. Let me know if you need anything for Allied warships.
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