Japanese Standard Ship Types

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Re: Japanese Standard Ship Types

Postby LukeFF on Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:19 pm

So many ships... :)
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Re: Japanese Standard Ship Types

Postby tater on Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:39 pm

Yeah, the E type is HUGE in terms of hulls built. True, it's tiny, but nearly 500 at sea.

2A would be another no-brainer to do with 131 hulls, and the 2D with 103.

The ship selection process for the SH4 devs was... bizarre.

Not that standard types should dominate at all. But the stupid small "tanker" (really converted to a refer) should have been maybe a 2E. One of the moder types should have been a 2A.

Hard to believe a 3d model builder wasted time on those 2 river boats... sigh. It's all about bang for the "buck," of effort, they should really ask someone first, we'd help for free :)
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Re: Japanese Standard Ship Types

Postby tater on Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:37 pm

Note:

If a 2E is made, looks like it can be scaled and reused (with some alteration to the bulwark heights, bow rake, and stern as a 2D.

Also, ideally any new ship model would have the superstructure as a separate object—in this case there were slight variations on the "standard" between yards. Move the superstructure a little, make the stack shorter, change a mast, and we get another ship for no more than some s3d work.
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Re: Japanese Standard Ship Types

Postby LukeFF on Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:00 pm

tater wrote:The ship selection process for the SH4 devs was... bizarre.

Not that standard types should dominate at all. But the stupid small "tanker" (really converted to a refer) should have been maybe a 2E. One of the moder types should have been a 2A.

Hard to believe a 3d model builder wasted time on those 2 river boats... sigh. It's all about bang for the "buck," of effort, they should really ask someone first, we'd help for free :)


Compared to the merchant ship selection in SH5, the merchants chosen for SH4 were great. :D At least we got a true coastal tanker (Paula) with the add-on, and it's a totally legit Japanese ship.

Even so, I look at some of the 3D merchant ship models and, when compared to the ONI manuals, they just don't look right. Buzyun Maru and the Akita Maru immediately come to mind.
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Re: Japanese Standard Ship Types

Postby tater on Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:41 pm

Yeah, those are odd. OTOH, generic ships are FINE with me as long as they are in the ballpark.
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Re: Japanese Standard Ship Types

Postby tater on Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:10 pm

The Battle for the Baltic mod has a russian ship that looks a LOT like a Standard Type 2D.

I managed to remove a few things and get it back in game... the AO map is fubar, but that can be fixed. I can also scale this puppy to make her the same size as the 2D.

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I think I can probably rake her bow, too. Not perfect, but an excellent "fill-in" unit for coastal traffic. And at 2300 tons, not chump change---worth heading to shallow waters for.

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Re: Japanese Standard Ship Types

Postby virtualpender on Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:16 pm

Tater - great idea to import that coastal cargo from the Baltic mod. I also think your idea you posted on SS about converting IABL's fishing trawlers into sea trucks is genius. The addition of these ships, particularly into '44 and '45 will be fantastic.
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Re: Japanese Standard Ship Types

Postby tater on Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:58 pm

I want to rake that bow, too. If this was Illustrator, it would have been done in about the time it takes my espresso machine to make an Americano. 3d? I'm useless, it looks like my 4 YO had a go.

Hmm, I think I will try stretching it, instead of removing. THEN I will rescale to the right length.
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Re: Japanese Standard Ship Types

Postby Nisgeis on Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:08 am

tater, have you got that larger res version of the 2E plans that you mentioned (in the earliest posts)?
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Re: Japanese Standard Ship Types

Postby tater on Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:53 am

Nisgeis wrote:tater, have you got that larger res version of the 2E plans that you mentioned (in the earliest posts)?


I'll scan it for ya in a few minutes, hang on...
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